you make a very good point...if he keeps failing, he'll get discouraged...i didn't even think of that, and i'm a psych major :P

But K1 is a tenacious boy! Bell is the woman of his life, he couldn't give up without a clear negative answer. By the way, Urd is looking after. ;) I just do hope it won't take too long...

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So?! that means he should try more often!! Persist and get results is the key!! ^_^

Pavlovian reflex my friend, if every time you try you fail, and your girlfriend doesn't even notice you tried, you're going to be less willing to try again

This isn't like Pavlov's experiment with a dog salivating at meat ;P

I'd like to think Keiichi has more persistence than that. Afterall, the reward would be quite something =)

you think he'll ever kiss Belldandy?

Well he is persistent, which is why he still tries at all, but if you want to know where his apprehension comes from a few sources which work unconciously, including the fact that he has been foiled so many times, hence the pavlovian reflex, he still tries, but there is definetly some apprehension at being interrupted, he's even admitted that something always happens, in addition the fact that she is a bit oblivious to his actions is a bit discouraging, in addition he has a desire not to push Bell into something she isn't willing or able to do, on some level he knows she isn't ready (as she stated in the 4th goddess arc) and is waiting for her to give him a signal(this was proven in Miss Keiichi and in the goddess test arcs), in addition there is the concern about the contract itself, he doesn't know what the terms of the contract entail, and what might happen if she has to leave because he oversteps his bounds and he's also concerned about Bell and how she will take it if something happens to him, we've seen how protective she is of him and there is a concern that she wouldn't respond to him dying very well, so a part of him is concerned about getting too close and making a potential seperation even more painful.

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you think he'll ever kiss Belldandy?

I could only hope so...in both the former seasons Keiichi was a total wuss...he slightly improved on the seocnd season...but he was definitely still a wuss. I hope Keiichi would stop being a crap and build a more intimate relationship with Bell...like when a rumored season 3 will begin...I hope they show it there! :D

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you think he'll ever kiss Belldandy?

I could only hope so...in both the former seasons Keiichi was a total wuss...he slightly improved on the seocnd season...but he was definitely still a wuss. I hope Keiichi would stop being a crap and build a more intimate relationship with Bell...like when a rumored season 3 will begin...I hope they show it there! :D

Well K1 does try, but everytime he tries he get interrupted, not to mention Bell is oblivious to what he's doing, so that doesn't help

I don't really think she's oblivious ... she may be naive but not oblivious, K1 is not really a courting master and Bell always reacts to his advances (when they seem clear!) or sometimes she strats them herself - all the times they kissed she started it, take the first kiss - after she saved him from falling over (maybe breaking his back!) it was she that embraced to kiss him and K1 continued from there!!

it's true he gets interrupted but a lot more possiilities happen around no?! ^_^

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I don't really think she's oblivious ... she may be naive but not oblivious, K1 is not really a courting master and Bell always reacts to his advances (when they seem clear!) or sometimes she strats them herself - all the times they kissed she started it, take the first kiss - after she saved him from falling over (maybe breaking his back!) it was she that embraced to kiss him and K1 continued from there!!

it's true he gets interrupted but a lot more possiilities happen around no?! ^_^

Actually, when he gets interrupted, she seems to become totally oblivious to what was happening, you'll notice she acts as if the moment never happened, which leads me to question whether she actually knew what was going on, because if she really was aware of it, she could try and reestablish the mood, in fact her actions are more a detriment, because like a pavlovian effect, they only serve to make him more hestiant, if he feels she's not aware of what he's doing, he's going to be a bit hestiant and get discouraged easier, so either she's oblivious or has major short term memory issues.

Also the times shes kissed him have been a result of an emotional moment or magical influence, she's never just casually kissed him just for the sake of doing so, he on the other hand has tried, but failed (she tried once herself but got interrupted by Urd), her kisses and hugs are akin to the moment at the end of Queen Sayoko where he hugged her in an emotional moment, usually as a result of K1 saying or doing something that lets her know he cares about her.

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you think he'll ever kiss Belldandy?

I could only hope so...in both the former seasons Keiichi was a total wuss...he slightly improved on the seocnd season...but he was definitely still a wuss. I hope Keiichi would stop being a crap and build a more intimate relationship with Bell...like when a rumored season 3 will begin...I hope they show it there! :D

Well K1 does try, but everytime he tries he get interrupted, not to mention Bell is oblivious to what he's doing, so that doesn't help

Nah, I presume Bell is completely aware of Keiichi's actions...she's just naive...completely innocent...

well i agree though that the fact when she gets interrupted does make her oblivious...best example is the circle of misunderstandings happening in the story...

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you think he'll ever kiss Belldandy?

I could only hope so...in both the former seasons Keiichi was a total wuss...he slightly improved on the seocnd season...but he was definitely still a wuss. I hope Keiichi would stop being a crap and build a more intimate relationship with Bell...like when a rumored season 3 will begin...I hope they show it there! :D

Well K1 does try, but everytime he tries he get interrupted, not to mention Bell is oblivious to what he's doing, so that doesn't help

Nah, I presume Bell is completely aware of Keiichi's actions...she's just naive...completely innocent...

well i agree though that the fact when she gets interrupted does make her oblivious...best example is the circle of misunderstandings happening in the story...

If shes totally naive then its the same as being oblivious, because she doesn't really know what hes doing, and the fact that after they're interrupted she acts like she was totally unaware of what happened a moment before shows that she really doesn't know what he's trying to do.

You know, Belldandy saw K1 kiss the fairy princess in the movie, and she had a total meltdown, so I'm not sure if she is as oblivious as she seems. Maybe she does know, and is waiting for the "right" time.

regardless whether bell's oblivious or waiting, keiichi just needs to man up and kiss her already. =)

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You know, Belldandy saw K1 kiss the fairy princess in the movie, and she had a total meltdown, so I'm not sure if she is as oblivious as she seems. Maybe she does know, and is waiting for the "right" time.

She's oblivious to his moves, but not to other girls kissing him

If you want to get technical about it... K1 wasn't just kissing Morgan in the AMG Movie... Remember Morgan allowed Celestine to possess her...