well, i like wearing dark colours, it shows a serious outlook yet a degree of sensibility as well, or maybe people wear it because dark colours make u look thinner! lol :bg:

but yes i agree, you cant wear it all the time.

Hmm well I think there is more to being 'Goth' then dressing dark and not carring. Actually most of those who i would catagorize as 'true Goth' (so to speak) are extrely well learned and immerse themselves in deep literature. However they are very narrowminded in the literature they chose, they tend to chose books based on religeon and the worlds prblems they focus their lives very much on the downside instead of the bright side to our world. TRhey seem to believe life is a pittiful waste and that our existance is wasted because so many people waste life away. I don't want to go into deep details its morbid and possible too dark ^-^'

Fashionable i don't like it, I like the sexy look some of them pull of, however I hate the 'Im a bad boy/girl" look with the torn up cloths and spikes and the...peircings X.x However there r those that find a way to dress more nicely ^-^ Im looking at the steriotipical version we think of

The goth syle for men is nice.:bg:

errr... ^^' you wouldnt catch me in a get up like that!
my mind is too bushido to wear clothes like that! it's normal everyday clothes for me!:)

yah i agree with the clothing thing it does slim us guys down and black also helps :P but there are amny names for gothic clothing it is classified in punk styles metalhead styles and also just plain gothic, but many pp like there own styles. mines all three of them im calsified as a Gothic Punk Metal-head.

If it was not for the color black I would be without any fashion sense whatsoever. Black shoes, jeans, Black or blue shirt, Black vest, black hat
there I have revealed my entire wardrobe.
Great thing is as long as you don't were pestles you can use anything and have it go with black

I swear I am not Gay

I tend to dress in primary colors because I am color blind, so I don't always know what matches. If I get new clothes that are colorful, I wait until a family member shows up, and write on the tag a number, and keep a piece of paper saying what other clothes go with it.

Sad, but true. People just don't understand how difficult being color blind makes things. Like driving for example... using red, yellow, and green for traffic signals is just sadistic, and I've nearly gotten myself killed on foggy mornings because of that (I can usually tell by the position of the light, but all you can see is the light itself on a really foggy morning).

And don't get me started on explosives... it is always the RED wire you have to cut... I had to quit my job with the bomb squad because I could only push my luck so far.

So back to clothes, I usually wear blacks, whites, or greys (or blue jeans, but they go with everything). This doesn't make me a goth though... being goth is an attitude, and often a poor one at that.

Larry

i am beginning to question the "correctness" of this thread. essentially we are now singling out a particular group for analysing and opening it up for critical remarks.
dont get me wrong i fully understand that this is a light-hearted discussion and is not meant to cause offence to goths. But it could easily have been about ethnic groups etc. do you know where im getting at?

uh... being goth is a choice. Nobody is born wearing a jet black diaper and a spiked pacifier. It isn't any kind of ethnic group, there are goth people of all races, and they chose to be that way.

As I pointed out before, being goth is an attitude. One that I find extremely silly, for the most part. But they shouldn't take it personally, I find people who dress as clowns funny too. In my experience (I've known and dealt with LOTS of goths before), a lot of them WANT to be singled out and viewed as different and weird. You don't bleach your skin, dye your hair, wear all black, and go around moaning about life being a cesspool unless you want attention.

the point of the thread wasnt to single them out cause i am goth and the point of it was to get opinions from other ppl and what they thing "goth" accually means.

pardon my misinterpretation of ur intentions, gomen, lo siento!

i was just worried the thread could get out of hand thats all.

^^ but before even being a type of architecture in Europe, of the clothing style it is today...

History:

Installed at the borders of the Roman Empire, the Goths were, in 230, the cause of the first great bararian invasionsagainst the Romans.
In 267, the Goths plundered Thrace, Macedonia and Greece. In 269, the Romans, lead by the emperer Caudius II the Gothic, made them undergo a terrible defeat during the battle of Naissus and, in 271, they were pushed back to the Danube. This group, the future Visigoths, then settled on the other side of the Danube and established an independent kingdom in the abandoned the Roman province of Dacie. During this time, Goths remained in Ukraine and established a vast and powerful kingdom along the Black Sea. They became Ostrogoths.

The Goths were briefly joined together under a single crown, at the beginning of the Life century, at the time of the reign of the king ostrogoth Théodoric the Great, who reigned on the Visigoth kingdom during almost two decades.

The Goths were the first barbarian people to be christianized. The bishop Wulfila translated the Bible into gotic and converted Goths to arianism, one of the first heresies of Christianity and which contributed to mark the differences between Romains and Barbarians.

Origine:

The question of the origin of Goths is a historical puzzle and philologicaly important.

The first Mediterranean descriptions of the presence of Goths locate them in Poland, at the mouth of the Vistula, during the IIth century before our era. Towards 150-200, they occupied the edges of the Black Sea, in the area of the current Ukraine. Jordanes, a romanized Goth of the IVth century, reported that, according to their traditions and their legends, their place of origin was Scandinavia. Jordanes describes also two tribes named Scandinaves Gautigoths (probably the Swedish province of Westrogothie/Västergötland) and Ostrogoths (probably the Swedish province of Ostrogothie/Östergötland). This tradition is supported by archaeology which shows close connections between the south of Scandinavia and the culture of Goths. There is also a vast disappearance of population in Ostrogothie in the south of Sweden at the time of the appearance of Goths in Poland. According to linguists, the ostic branch (Gothic) of the Germanic languages is more related to the Scandinave branch than with the westic branch.

The rebuilt root of the word goth, *Gut -, is identical to that of Gotland, an island at Baltique sea. There are interesting correspondences between gothic, the language of Goths, and the gutnisk, the Swedish dialect of Gotland.

(translation from http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths )

yes no offence was taken by your reeguards accually i thnk you for letting me know about this. and i enjoyed your lil history leason morphee

lol my pleasure slim! ^^ actually i love History so i really enjoyed making the post... lol! :) i also have a few things about the Gothic type of architecture if anyone is interested... it appeared to replace Roman architecture which wasn't that practical and stable...

http://agora.qc.ca/reftext.nsf/6956576ec7183a6085256873006b452c/85256b2b0003f26a85256e67006b0c6b/Image/0.84?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

At the time when Roman art was in full blooming and full possession of its means, the Gothic art was born, developed and strengthened itself; it spread in all Europe and supplanted Roman art. It was a new design of life, a success which could not be explained without a transformation of ideas, social, political and economic conditions.

Byzance, conquered by crossings, was reduced. The Holy Roman Empire lost its power. France triumphed in Bouvines over the Imperial and affirmed itself at the same time as Holland and England. Papacy left Rome for Avignon. Spain triumphed over the Arabs. In short, the order and the power were established in the west of the Empire where France, having triumphed over the heresies was dominating. Before the great battles came with the One hundred Year old war and the Black Death, France dominated. It was then the development of trade, including international trade, of urban middle-class; it was also the beginning of the decline of feudality and rural company. The cities increased, Gothic art marked them like the Romanesque art marked the landscapes of the countryside. In Paris, the Sorbonne attracted the professors and students of all Europe. It was the time when were represented the two tendencies of the Middle Ages: One mystical, one can say Romance, represented by Saint Bernard and the franciscans, the other dialectical one or Gothic which attempted to grant reason and faith: Abélard and the Dominican ones were defenders. Here is the medium in which will be born and to develop the Gothic art.

http://www.evous.com/guide/maison/architecture/histoire/gothique/cathedrale-gothique.jpg

Technically, Gothic construction rest on three elements: the arc, the vault and the bracket. The arc: It is the gothic arch which allows the vault on intersecting ribs, which is a groined vault moulded on diagonal veins; its origin is remote and an old example is that of the vault of Durham in England. This vault is reinforced by transverse and longitudinal arcs which accentuate the vertical push on four pillars. The horizontal thrust is absorbed by the brackets of various types (simple or double, with one or two flights). The pushes thus absorptive, it becomes impossible to open the walls and to place canopies there.

Did the technical elements determine the Gothic architecture or quite to the contrary they found, were not founded or were invented to translate what people wanted to express? It is allowed to think that they were used to only put forward medieval philosophy and the mystic. Thus, the Gothic spirit organizes space and its dynamics communicates to him. It privileges light, cathedrals are bathed by it, and verticality: The evolution of the pillars shows it; finally, it harmoniously combines architecture, sculpture, painting, stained glasses. All these elements differentiate it from the unit very pure, but massive, of the Romanesque art.

Source of the Gothic word:
The artists of Renaissance, finding the art of the Middle Age obsolete, called it "Gothic" (by allusion to the Germanic tribe of Goths), which meant for them barbarian. In a report addressed to the Pope Leon X, Raphaël use was the first to use this word, which, in his thought, was synonymous with barbarian, term of contempt in opposition to the Antique art.

(translation from: http://www.artsimages.com/gothique.htm)

i also like history thats how i became goth it was just so interesting, and if i can find any of my gothic history about anything goth ill show you guys... but thats only if i find it...:sheep: